IRC meet, DGPLUG, BCREC

Today we the members of DGPLUG and BCREC ,durgapur decided on an irc meet to help our college create and maintain a student driven we site ..i am pasting the irc log.

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[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:21:52] clap clap
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:22:14] Agenda
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:22:24] First Bijra status:
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:22:27] tux_440volt,
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:22:31] clap clap
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:22:42] current bijra status
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:22:58] 1) setup at school finished..painting underway
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:23:09] will be finished by monday
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:23:12] Infrastructure wise ok i hope tux_440volt
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:23:20] yup
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:23:38] tux_440volt, what we are missing ?
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:23:58] Missing the main thing...M/c's
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:24:18] 2) computers are ready .... disaster recovery cannot be done. wiki to updated
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:24:21] soumya, no dates before 2nd as news from IDG
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:24:37] i am trying to fix the wiki
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:24:43] oks
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:24:44] though no idea
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:24:52] after 2nd is fine no probs
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:25:16] and blog to be posted..current status draft..need to be posted...will post today
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:25:30] tux_440volt: DR has to be done somehow
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:25:44] DR mane?
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:25:50] oh
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:26:05] makghosh, what is DR ?
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:26:18] disaster recovery
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:26:24] ok
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:26:30] is there any other option to do disaster recovery than mkcdrec
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:26:35] May be writing nt in abbreviation is appreciated
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:26:41] we can take backup of /home ,/usr..etc manually
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:26:46] for the time being
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:27:06] that will hectic tux_440volt
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:27:09] Join ria has joined this channel (n=ria@59.161.83.35).
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:27:31] a temporary solution
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:27:52] that may be
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:28:00] tux_440volt: ok...it will be a temporary solution
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:28:31] may i know solution to what is found out?
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:28:40] disaster recovery
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:28:45] of bijra server
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:28:50] ok
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:29:39] Can we move to the next issue ?
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:29:43] ok
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:29:51] yes
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:29:59] hmm
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:30:04] BCREC website
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:30:16] I am writing a proposal to the authority
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:31:16] on ph
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:31:58] http://freeshell.in/~kushal/proposal.txt
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:32:04] this is how I started
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:32:11] seeing
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:32:18] Nishant will help me to write this
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:32:26] checking
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:32:50] checking
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:33:53] kushal, you said me to write something
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:34:05] but i find everything written
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:34:05] ria, read the proposl
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:34:08] ria, read the proposal
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:34:18] ya reading
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:34:24] read a bit of it
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:34:33] Now the main thing is to create the team in college
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:34:40] I have this idea
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:35:16] Each dept, each year, 2 boys and 2 girls
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:35:45] kushal, team of what?
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:35:49] that would create a very big team..will be difficult to manage
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:35:53] team for what?
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:36:04] ria, web site developers
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:36:09] currently bcroy has more then 12 department
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:36:13] kushal, ok
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:36:16] tux_440volt, tell me
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:36:17] including masters
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:36:23] MTech
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:36:25] MCA
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:36:27] BBA
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:36:29] MBA
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:36:30] So, what is the problem
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:36:32] tux_440volt: leave the masters alone now
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:36:33] tux_440volt, iagree with you
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:36:45] bpharm
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:36:50] tux_440volt, We are talking only the engg courses for time being
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:36:52] bca too
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:36:57] ok
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:37:09] its better to focus on the 6 b tech depts we have
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:37:23] Responsibility :
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:37:33] Get details of the dept as requested
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:37:39] but i think the BCREC website should for everyone
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:37:40] no actually its a college issue ..thats why
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:37:48] not for BTech only
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:38:04] ria, we are currently discussing technical issues
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:38:05] * ria agrees with tux_440volt
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:38:14] kushal, ok
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:38:17] kushal: ok
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:38:27] * makghosh agrees kushal
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:38:38] 2. Get student project details
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:39:02] 3. All students can have their personal home page
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:39:29] blog type?
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:39:29] All means 1200-1600 whatever
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:39:44] this is cool
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:39:47] tux_440volt, no, single user page for time being
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:39:54] 360*4
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:40:40] 4. Team will collect different study materials from the teachers
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:40:50] and will upload them in their respective name
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:40:56] study materials means?
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:41:03] exactly?
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:41:14] kushal, ^^^^^^
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:41:15] notes sort of
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:41:22] ok
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:41:26] student point e jeta deoa hoy
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:41:32] yep....whatever uploadable
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:41:34] tux_440volt, correct
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:41:39] makghosh, yes
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:41:41] ok tux_440volt
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:41:55] Next we need some very good writers
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:42:04] DNG sirer onek paoa jabe :-)
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:42:10] i am there
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:42:12] Who will write the general news
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:42:15] not very good
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:42:22] still can write
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:42:27] we can assign
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:42:30] students
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:42:34] for that
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:42:38] We need the best, because that will make effect first
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:42:49] They will write regular news sections
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:42:50] i will try
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:43:04] ok..then we can take a test with help of humanities department
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:43:13] tux_440volt, ok
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:43:15] test????
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:43:17] they can help us to sort out
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:43:32] yah....sunita mam may help in this matter
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:43:33] tux_440volt, i request you not to bring the humanitics dept
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:43:54] ria: humanities department saved us last time
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:43:57] she seems intrested in dgplug works
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:44:00] makghosh, i think she will start something else with this
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:44:01] tux_440volt, please don't bring any dept directly in this
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:44:15] <-> tux_440volt> agrees makghosh
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:44:17] makghosh, that is ok, she can be a part of the team
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:44:28] tux_440volt, she started seeing body language there
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:44:32] kushal: i said she can help us to sort out
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:44:32] STOP ALL
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:44:37] kushal: i am talking of only sunita mam ....no dept...she can help us
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:44:43] exactly
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:46:25] kushal: continue
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:46:52] ^^^^^
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:46:54] As this size of plone project is too big (told by the plone developers in the morning)
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:47:22] Any pro may charge 1.5-2.0 lakhs for this
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:47:34] But we will not charge anything
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:47:43] And this will take time
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:47:53] As you saw in the proposal
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:48:04] there is a College authority part
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:48:19] Where new job offers or Tender details will be
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:48:33] This part we will ask to send directly to me
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:49:02] We are going to start with a basic Plone installation
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:49:03] ok
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:49:14] and will continue to improve iut
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:49:15] hmmm
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:49:16] it
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:49:26] http://kushaldas.homelinux.net/plone
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:49:30] http://kushaldas.homelinux.net/Plone
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:49:47] please check the above site
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:49:55] yep....checkin
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:50:00] The design is the default Plone
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:50:08] We will change it later
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:50:16] kushal: unable to connect
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:51:26] tux_440volt, http://kushaldas.homelinux.net/Plone
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:51:50] kushal: ok running
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:52:24] Now every department will also have their Home page, (currently blank)
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:52:37] so, the dept students will take care of that too
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:52:52] ok
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:53:07] We will create a general template for all depts
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:53:12] gr8888888 dekte
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:53:36] btw, that is my desktop where the server is running
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:53:37] really gr8 :)
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:54:35] soumya, can you write 10 lines about the college tonight
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:54:51] kushal: it is Plone CMS taking care of all the things...
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:54:57] makghosh, yes
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:55:32] When the basic design will be completed we will go for complex apps
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:55:38] ok
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:55:40] Like alumni association
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:55:47] And Forums
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:55:48] hmmm...
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:56:01] what DataBase does plone use?
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:56:11] ZODB
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:56:22] Zope DB?
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:56:24] bhalo babhe bolle Zeo Cluster
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:56:28] yes
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:56:30] ok
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:56:43] It is an Object Database, not the regular one

[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:57:34] ok
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:57:47] kushal wait


[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:58:06] kushal, and if you want you can kick me out
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:58:13] tux_440volt, please find one girl from the hostel who can help us to write About girls hostel
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:58:34] ok... i will
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:58:43] he he:)
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:58:57] tux_440volt, toder class test kabe sesh hochhe
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:58:57] ?
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:59:06] 1st mone hoy
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:59:08] 3 days only
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:59:10] saturday
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:59:16] ok
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:59:26] tahole Wedness raate next meeting habe
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:59:35] ok
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [20:59:43] I need the team members' names by then
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:00:00] kushal i had names of 34 students willing to join dgplug
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:00:01] okie...
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:00:10] tux_440volt, ok
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:00:12] good
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:00:14] from 4 classes
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:00:18] tux_440volt: we can select amongst them
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:00:20] tux_440volt, but we need Team for Website

[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:00:43] We need people who can write
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:01:01] content writer can be selected..ok i will see to that
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:01:38] soumya, ping
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:01:45] there are no good things going on at girls' hostel.. so it's difficult to write good about it.... everyone is thinking of going to mess
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:01:52] kushal: we can divide some jobs..like ajitesh and swagnik has good reputation with teachers
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:02:08] kushal: wait
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:02:19] so they can take the load of getting data from teachers
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:02:24] soumya, meeting is going to over in 5 minutes
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:02:33] tux_440volt, that you people decide
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:02:37] ok
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:02:41] ok kushal
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:02:46] kushal: i can also help in the general writing works
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:02:46] See, We need details about the depts


[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:03:23] soumya, read fast
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:03:24] i can also write
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:03:31] soumya: details about department
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:03:35] of BCREC
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:03:49] makghosh, can you please write some thing about CSE dept
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:04:03] kushal: yep...i will
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:04:19] I will be again online after 12.00AM
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:04:23] kushal: login name and password
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:04:32] ??
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:04:33] kushal: ya^^^^^^^^^^^
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:04:34] tux_440volt, not yet
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:04:41] hmmm
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:04:44] oks.......
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:04:48] People , please write in text files
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:05:00] and then mail to me
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:05:01] yup completed
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:05:06] c i have a problem
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:05:11] soumya, tell
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:05:24] choosing a team for bcrec websites need very able ppl
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:05:34] nt on enthusiasts
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:05:48] soumya, TRUE
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:05:59] soumya: thats why we can have a test to see who are really able
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:06:09] so, soumya can you interview the candidates
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:06:11] or willing
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:06:14] c the team shud be selected in such a way that the persons involved in the team should be able to suffice our needs
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:06:19] test cant do that tux_440volt
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:06:31] hmm..ok
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:06:32] soumya, can you do an interview ?>
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:06:35] you need to talk with teachers of the respective departments
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:06:54] kushal i think I am nt so able guy doing that
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:07:03] soumya, ok
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:07:08] what type of work do we need to be done byu this team kushal ?
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:07:24] kushal elaborate the work line
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:07:28] soumya, written above , please read
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:07:28] c data collection
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:07:33] is nt a big deal
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:07:35] please read
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:07:37] its done by normals
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:07:41] oks 1 min
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:07:43] soumya: website development...content writing etc
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:07:50] soumya, We need good content writers
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:07:59] of the proposed BCREC website
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:08:03] soumya, Who can write good english
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:08:23] website development is where we need some effective study dudes
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:08:24] kushal: a good search in the college ..we can have that
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:08:50] ^^^content writers
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:08:51] c i think sunita Mam can be included for content writing or effective english parts
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:08:55] soumya, no, For the next 4-6 months we will take care of site developments
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:09:13] but the team shud be made accordingly na
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:09:15] soumya, for time being we need content writers
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:09:29] And data collectors for content writers
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:09:30] after 6 months addition or deletion in the team shudnt be done
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:09:44] den dont form a team now
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:09:48] as bcoz
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:09:51] soumya, it will be according to their performance
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:10:07] data collectors can be our present mebers of dgplug and the new members included
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:10:10] soumya, every one is welcome to join to help the team
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:10:15] soumya, true
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:10:19] yes evrybody is
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:10:24] ur nt gettin my point
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:10:40] i cant include evrybody for at technical job resulting in technical mess
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:11:01] as for 6 7 months we dont want developers
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:11:04] soumya, thats why no technical jobs for the students now
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:11:06] so i suggest don form team now
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:11:11] soumya, ok
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:11:24] soumya, but we need content writing team
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:11:26] as data collection can be done by our present lug members
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:11:33] soumya: first we wil give them (the teams) small jobs....content writing....then technical things will come later
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:11:39] and content writing a shud be done with gr8 english skills
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:11:42] soumya: yep
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:11:46] shud be handled by sunita mam
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:12:05] atleast she can help students
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:12:09] content writing means
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:12:09] soumya, ok, then please talk with her ASAP
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:12:10] i think so....sunita mam is able for this
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:12:16] kushal:
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:12:18] to do that
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:12:20] shono
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:12:20] makghosh, one person can't do this
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:12:29] i m thinking tell sunita mam that
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:12:32] tell fast, I have to leave
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:13:00] kushal: she can head the teams i mean...check out their rough drafts
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:13:08] makghosh, ok
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:13:09] and she may come out with her team in the students grp consisting 4 members who r english jewels who wil help mam or mam will help them
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:13:37] so the content writing matter ends here

[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:14:07] i know that 4th year piyanadi is gold medal winner at essay writing
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:14:29] and that 4 shud be officially be endorsed met and discussed with by our dgplug members


[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:14:57] kushal: note a point she can even help us somewhat in selection process too:) we should contact her soon
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:15:12] I am telling something which is important to dgplug
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:15:12] makghosh: who?
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:15:15] c ria i think u and other mebers go to sunita mam and suggest abt students also taking mam's suggestions
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:15:17] kushal: i mean sunita mam
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:15:24] kushal, but i can see it
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:15:32] soumya, ria is not a part of dgplug any more
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:15:46] piyanidi and who so ever interested and masters in english and with complete support by sunita mam is included
[Wed Aug 29 2007] [21:15:51] soumya, can you write 10 lines about college before 12.00am ?
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[p.s . Sunita Dey or Sunita mam is one of our humanities department faculty who saved us during our fedora day.by offering humanities department lab]

Fedora Packaging.

With help from Debarshi Ray, I tried to do some packaging for fedora. I started with Straw which has be orphaned.
I downloaded Straw 0.27 .tar.gz from here .Put the source to /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES . And took the spec file fedora core 5 .As i am a first timer so Debarshi helped me by writing the spec file for me. I took it from here
Now when i executed the command
$rpmbuild -ba straw.spec
i got the following output .








Now could not resolve the problem of straw.lang . Is it still used as was guessed by tuukka hastrup at #straw.
Previosly I faced a problem of failing dependencies of python-bsddb3.Which got resolved by installing bsddb from here

WBUT-LUG First INSTALL FEST

So we had our experience of 1st install fest at WBUT on last saturday(25th Aug 2007).
Organised by wbut-lug ,and supported by ilug-cal.org ( went there as ilug-cal.org members).
We ( i along with Ajitesh Chaudhury, Arindam ghosh,and Swagnik chatterjee) went from durgapur boarding the morning bus.
The install fest started about 1 hour late (scheduled at 12:00 PM)because this is the the first time and few preparition like 64bit fedora 7 dvd and boot cds took time.
Anyways the respones was good and most of all students were patient and bearing the delay.The student was mix of biotechs (Mtech)and IT/CSE .(Mostly 2nd year).Inspite of rain,student brought their own machines..so there was a mix of owned machine and WBUT machines.
We started with a little inauguration speech by indra da(Indranil Das Gupta).
Then after volunteer introduction, install fest started.Few Notes and howto's were also distributed.Susmit Shannigrahi ( a HITK/WBUTand a fedora ambassador) pass out of this year took the pain and lead .He created a local fedora mirror and also conducted the install fest.
Among student owned machine one acer aspire and a assembled box gave trouble...after rigorous attempt we had fedora up and running on those machines though assembled box gave way.
We also had a non visible cursor machine powered by a microsoft mouse .Though Soumyadip Da (Soumyadip Modok ) just solved in few minutes.
We also had Debarshi Roy who came up with few stickers to distribute.
The install fest went around till 9:30 PM ..and crowd was with us.
Check out the photos here
See more details here

[p.s : We had uttapam ordered for lunch and samosas for the evening.....after everything finished ..we went to wbut library to finish our bijra left overs..though we slept actually :P]

What a waste !

My College bought few hp compaq dx2300M microtower machines....though official hp site showed some great configurations but college machines are some what different.Anyways may be a stripped down version or so....some these machines were installed with fedora core 3(college installed it) .And what we had is that intel pro/100 VE network card is not detected.While Some of slower machines had FC5( though thats pathetic to use but still.......)

Why does college buy these machines....spending the same amount as of a more powerful machine.

A Day with fedora

As per schedule ,we organised our " A Day with fedora " .
Its was 10 a.m and it started raining heavily.
We had Debarshi Ray as our guest speaker
and we had :-
Frequent power failure.
A Projecture that has its own mind and shuts down every 15 min.


As our schedule were mainly to show some good stuffs..we felt little shaky at the start. But somehow managed to have a start .

Ajitesh gave a introduction speech about GNU/Linux
Debarshi 's speech about google summer of code created a huge interest among the audience.
( btw we got a good response from 1st year, 2nd year and my 3rd year CSE and IT friends.)
( Also we had few student and faculties from NSHM)
Then kushal 's spoke about fedora.
And i showed them how to configure bluetooth using bluez.( luckily i had my snaps).[that just to create and maintain their interest for a little longer....this session was interactive as we really had volunteers among audiences ]

Then , Kushal and Ajitesh played Open Arena and Xmoto which again created a lot of interests.

Though things were going right..still we didnt get that pace that we expected primarily due to absence of a good projector.

All things we showed them were on our laptops.

Debarshi then gave a hands on( on one of our laptops) on GCC..

Second half we couldn't decide what to do....primarily due to two reason.

1) BCREC administration has wonderful habbit of granting and then refusing.( They granted us the permission of using the seminar hall from 10am to 5 pm , but asked us to leave at 1:20 pm because they are going to organize a seminar on " IT as career " for .............. i dont know who the target audience was??? ")

2) malfuntioning projecture..no dias and no board.

Then our humanities department offered us their softskill lab were we carried on with our further programme with only 32 interested student..who were with us till the end.( coz its a32 seater hall).
Here we introduced our bijra high school project
showed them difference between python and C and advantages of python and little bit pyQt.

And ended our programme..


The end of the day was a mixed feeling.

Bad because of the behaviour of BCREC authorities and no support from them.

Good because we atleast created some interest some students and teachers who listened to us and supported us till the end.

[We even hacked our college alumni site to show them the crap they had created.]

" NSHM " "dgplug "" A DAY WITH FEDORA "

Today went to NSHM ,to invite them for our " A Day with Fedora ".
Met withMr. Rajesh Das , HOD of Computer Application Department. As we talked about the seminar,he suddenly said;
"one and a half year ago NSHM's setup was running in LTSP and fedora. That time we faced so much of problem,that we had to shift to windows...but during that time fedora was quite stable..now that we come to know that you people are working on these things"

we were quit amazed..

He then queried about our Bijra High School project and showed a lot of interest in it .He then showed us what currently they are using for student management...it looked good but its a web based one.

Though the meeting was brief but the response we got from him was quite amazing..we didnt even expect that from our college.

On the other news :-
Our " A day with Fedora " is going to be held tomorrow 17th August 2007 from 10 A.M to 5 P.M At BCREC college campus,Durgapur. Preparations are complete and waiting for a " all thats end well " result.

A day with fedora

dgplug is going to arrange " a day with fedora " like previous year.
The event will be held at Dr.B.C.Roy Engg College ,Durgapur on 17 th August 2007 .
please see here for more details.

FLOSS and ME

Last 2 months is always bearing surpise for me. Working with FOSS a never been so interesting for me. Currently Working at wbut with Indra da ,to finalise our bijra server and its 1:51 pm. Over and all the NEWS of FOSS Initiatives that can never be heard of by sitting at home ,can be heard here.which not only creates interests but also a hunger to work more in FOSS ,and with FOSS .



Being part of bijra school project is reaqlly a matter of pride.

Get blue using GNU/Linux

Today we all use bluetooth enabled phones ,here is how you will connect it from GNU/Linux.

A Bluetooth utility is available called Bluez. In order to install Bluez do the following :-
Download the following packages from here.

* bluez-libs-3.14.tar.gz ..
* bluez-utils-3.14.tar.gz ..
* bluez-firmware-1.2.tar.gz ..
* bluez-hcidump-1.40.tar.gz ..
* bluez-gnome-0.13.tar.gz ...

In order to install them run the following commands.
Open a terminal switch to super user by using the command

$ su -

Now as super user or root, use the following commands

The above packages are zipped and archived so run
$ gunzip package name.tar.gz

to unzip them.


Now un tar/un archive them by using the command

# tar xvf package name.tar

Now change to the new directory created

# cd package name

Within the directory execute the following commands.

# ./configure

# make

#make install

[If your using fedora 7 and have an active internet connection then do a

#yum install bluez*

to download and install all packages at once]..

Once installtion complete in the command line type

$ bluetooth-applet [ if you are using gnome ]....

Now right click on the applet ----> preference --- >Visible and connectable to other device.









Now if need is to make a transfer from phone to computer ...
open bluetooth file sharing and send it from your phone.








And if the need is from computer to phone ..... then just right on music file ar picture file or the application you want to send ...you will get a menu consisting of "send as" and" send to "option select Bluetooth OBEX file transfer and send .







HAPPY BLUETOOTHING :)

jachole etao hoy!!!!

After doing rigorous attempt to connect my cyberoam based cable net . Even installed linc ...and started learning gdb in order just to have my net connected from linux.

After all failure .i frustatedly did the following:
opened system-config-network.
new-->xdsl-->account information--> activate


and i am blogging from fedora 7 using that cable connecion.


What a fate....


moral of the story

"never miss out a single try...."

What a journey.

"I promise never to catch short distance trains."

A summary of what happened during our return journey to Durgapur

Today went to WBUT with ajitesh.

came out late .

Boarded a taxi and asked him to drive fast ..........he almost made arrangement for us to reach hell( still did no "punno") fast.

went to babughat, boarded a ferry.

At howrah station ,a mere two step inside platform landed in a fine of 100 rupees.

jumped into running train(agnibeena express) ..............and reached home totally exhausted.
(No energy left to write a lengthy post)

The whole thing happened in 55 mins.

Local Audio in LTSP 4.2 using fedora 7

ltsp 4.2 shows problem with NASD ,as NASD is the oldest in case of supporting unix terminal server.So while switching from ltsp 4.1 to 4.2 problem may arise with nasd configuration.
So in order to have local sound configuration it is better to use ESD as compared to NASD ,though ESD is quit buggy.
As ALSA is now being the most widely supported ,so it is for sure that vendors will be supporting ALSA as compared to ESD,OSS,aRts ,etc.
sounds confusing right!!!

In order to have sound from your local terminal ,download LTSP-esd-alsa 1.0.0 -2 .Install it in your server.
Now configure your ESD as primary.




Also change preference of media players to have ESD as default.


As shown in figures beside.
You can download the package LTSP-esd-alsa 1.0.0-2 from here

Bijra & Ltsp & me

Currently undergoing training regarding implementation of LTSP at Bijra High School in WBUT. Few important points goes here.....

1)Server is a intel pentium D 3.0 GHZ with 1 gigs of ram and 80Gb of HDD.it got a cdrom and a cd/dvd combo.
2)Installed full fedora 7 including some features from livna .
3)updated the whole ( all packages ).
4)Downloaded and installed LTSP package from LTSP.org (ltsp 4.2u2).
5)downloaded kernel 2.6.22.1 installation still left to be done.
6) The all common multimedia codecs are installed.


------------------more comming up in BIJRA HIGH SCHOOL 'S own blog----------------------

yahooooooooo

i am so glad on at last having a internet connection on linux.Circumstances are so bad that this peppy little Airtel GPRS connection feels like heaven.

the following i did to connect my motorola L6 with Fedora core 6(ZOD)

First identify your phones AT vendor id and Product id.

using root privilege type the following.

/sbin/modprobe usbserial vendor=0x product=0x

next type the following

wvdialconf create
you will get a output as shown in figure.

now edit the file wvdialconf by the following command.

vi /etc/wvdial.conf
usually a blank file . if something is in it previously discard it.

now type the following.

Dialer Defaults]
Modem = <>
Baud = 460800
Init1 = ATZ
Init2 = ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0
ISDN = 0
Modem Type = Analog Modem
Phone = *99***1#
Username = A
Password = B
Stupid Mode = 1

now save and exit

and the shell run the command

wvdial

you will get an output showing yor local ip,primary DNS ,secondary DNS,and modem type( analog)

..now open your browser and enjoy...


NB: there are so many articles written as a solution to problem of connecting GPRS in linux. A decent googling will surely lead you to the most appropiate solution. Still this is a try to resolve this problem.

I have been associated with Dgplug since april 2006,in this last 1 year (i year 2 months to be specific ) i came to know lot about linux and the Foss world.
This create a strong enthusiam in me for Free and Open source software.
With my this very little knowledge i would like to share a view.

In February 2007 , a meeting was held in Dr.B.C.Roy Engg.College regarding introduction of FOSS electives in our syllabus with WBUT in association with NRCFOSS.

there i came upon a phrase that meaned ' Zero percent tolerance for pirated software'.
Thereby i came across this many times after.

In context with a fake raid by Microsoft and the above ,there lies a loophole in the idea itself.

Suppose i own a computer centre having 10 computers. i ,due to my above mentioned principle,have all genuine propeitary software(say microsoft windows xp and associates) installed in it.
As per schedule say 10 students come across this computers and they are learning something.In any general case few of the following happens:-

1) the student gets gets a wrong idea that microsoft and computer are inevitable part of computing.

2) Even if they didn't ,there lies a strong possibility that every time that student wants to do something regarding computers he/she looks for a familier platform( andas in most cases and here also its Propetiry Soft).

3)Apart from the above ,if each student has a computer in his home ,Despite off all tries there lies very less possibity that each student will buy a genuine copy of propeitary OS and associates.

So even though the try is to lessen piracy,it acually giving a boost to it.

While on the Other hand if the knowledge is shared using FOSS softwares,not only piracy gets lessened( due to no need of it any more) but also knowledge gained is much more than above mentioned case due to availability of a good number of choices.


So we can very easily conclude FOSS not only give us a chance to curb piracy but also increase knowledge.

Only need is to convice the syllabus designing bodies and educational heads about the importance of FOSS.

Indian Diversity

It has been a while that india is changing..

we know india is a country of diversity,but watching this diversity from so close is almost a lucky man's dream.

today saw something.
this pic is what indian transport system thought of.......
beside on is what it is turning to......Compare and see the change....

I am simply loving it.

"Diversity Of Indian Transport System"




:) he he

Bijra Revisited

After nearly about 2 months i along with Ajitesh resumed our Bijra project( as School was closed for annual exam ,results ..). Today we planned to give some quick revision of our previous module and shift to new one.

But start was a glitch,class 10 was found to remeber nothing even very basics. This dissapointed us very much.

Next period was of new class 9 (previously class 8) came up with great enthusiasm.And that really worked. With only 3-4 min of revision we switched to our new module.

Today we started with kbruch(a fun to use mathematical application), public demand was of a song so we used xmms( song was hawa hawa (remix).mp3),and Ajitesh being a good artist came up with kolorpaint which attracted a good attention.

for more pics visit ....... (http://www.flickr.com/photos/subhodipbiswas)

বা ! গ্রেট আমি succesful ,ফাইনালি আমি বাংলা লিখতে পারলাম web এ, ধন্যবাদ লেখো ।

this happened!

today i tried to install livecd creator and failed miserably.this is what happened.

the problem is related with yum...why is it happening.

my yum is at par with req.what to do next

The big day

oh! what a day we had. today vice chancellor of WBUT(West Bengal University of TEchnology) came to our project site and had a vigilence of what we are doingand having a chat with the school authority.(Bijra high school is our project site). for more details of our project ,please visit
www.dgplug .org